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  • 1.  Shortcut to Objects

    Posted 09-15-2021 13:44
    When creating Requirement Types, we organize requirements of the same type into Folders in the Jama repository.

    However, often times a requirement may bridge across folders, for example, we have a Folder called "LIGHTS" for all requirements with lights and a folder called "WHEELS" for all requirements about wheels, but, when we have a requirement about Lights inside Wheels, which folder should we use?  We usually pick one, but, not the best solution.

    Would be nice to have an object and then be able to create a "Shortcut" to that object in other folders.  The Shortcut is just that, a shortcut.  Would be nice to have the same fields, just, not editable and always in sync with the parent object.

    I tried Re-Use, sorta works, but generates a wholly self contained object with it's own unique ID and plays havoc in Filtering activities.  Would be nice to be able to create a shortcut object and have it point to an actual object when dealing with Folder Structures.

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    Chris Bomicino
    Amazon
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  • 2.  RE: Shortcut to Objects

    Posted 09-15-2021 16:37
    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for reaching out! Have you considered using relationships between these items? For example, if some of the Lights items are related as "downstream" items from corresponding Wheel items, then you could both filter them using their relationships and use Trace View to view them in relation to each other.

    Let me know what you think!

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    Decoteau Wilkerson
    Jama Software
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  • 3.  RE: Shortcut to Objects

    Posted 09-16-2021 00:22
    Hi Chris,
    why don't try a different approach?
    Put all your items in the same bin (Folder) and tag them (Tags: "LIGHTS", "WHEELS"). Items can have more then one tag. The desired items can be easily selected by advanced filter without creating copies with reuse/sync. In such a way you can use whatever folder structure you want and get the items by tags.
    I hope it helps ...
    Best,
    Alessandro

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    Alessandro
    Systems Engineer
    SICK AG
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  • 4.  RE: Shortcut to Objects

    Posted 09-16-2021 07:42
    Edited by Chris 09-16-2021 07:51
    LIGHTS, WHEELS, and LIGHTS IN WHEELS requirements are at the same level in the Requirement Tree, all link up to Parent Requirements for "CAR".   We use relationships for tracing up and down the requirement tree, not across the same level.

    So LIGHTS requirements are in a Lights Folder, WHEELS requirements are in Wheels Folder.  We don't want to create a unique folder for LIGHTS IN WHEELS requirements.

    Users view JAMA in Folders just like your desktop computer and its an accepted navigation and interface.  Filters and Tags are helpful for queries, but, fall short when viewed across an organization.  At each Level of Requirements is a Folder tree placing requirements into applicable subsystems (WHEELS, LIGHTS, BRAKES, SUSPENSION, TRANSMISSION, ENGINE, FUEL, etc).

    Parent to all these Subsystems is the main system (CAR) which they link up to.  Downward traces are lower level requirements with part numbers, design and such.

    We don't want to duplicate elements at a single level, but, being able to create shortcut objects that point to an actual object allows that object to be represented in multiple folders visually but only truly exists in one location.  If someone is looking at the Wheels folder looking for the LIGHTS IN WHEEL requirement object, a physical visual representation of the requirement exists, however, it's just a shortcut to the real object, with ID, linkages, etc, in the LIGHTS Folder.

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    Chris Bomicino
    Amazon
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  • 5.  RE: Shortcut to Objects

    Posted 09-16-2021 11:48
    Unfortunately our Tree Structure at a particular level also includes subfolders.  To keep the same example, the Lights Folder may have subfolders called Headlight, Taillight, Turning, Parking, etc).  By adding tags, you would need filters created for every level of subfolder you plan to implement and then teach the organization that Folders are not constructs and you have to have TAGs to identify a folder like structure.  Even at that, having tags is not heirarchical, thus, multiple tags don't define the particular order.

    For example, if i have the tags Lights and Tailights to represent folders, which one is first in the heirarchy?  what if I add a third tag.

    They key concept isn't how to manipulate database relationships but how people interact with the data.  Since Shortcuts are so ingrained in our collective computer knowledge, what shortcuts are, and how to use them, having similar objects in JAMA seems reasonable.

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    Chris Bomicino
    Amazon
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  • 6.  RE: Shortcut to Objects

    Posted 26 days ago
    Hi Chris,

    Thank you for your patience. I have been working with our Product team to try and determine if we can find workarounds for your specific use case.



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    Decoteau Wilkerson
    Jama Software
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  • 7.  RE: Shortcut to Objects

    Posted 26 days ago
    Yes, exactly that.

    From a "Folder" visual construct, when requirements bridge functional allocations (no Functional Allocations are ever clean and perfect), how a "human" thinks needs to be considered.  When a requirement bridges across Functional Allocation Domains, having it "DEFINED" in one but also guiding people from the Other to the single source of truth.

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    Chris Bomicino
    Amazon
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  • 8.  RE: Shortcut to Objects

    Posted 25 days ago
    Hi Chris,

    Thank you for clarifying. Jama doesn't have this capability at the moment. However, I think this would be an interesting feature to file an Ideation card for.

    If you do file one, could you share your link for the card in this thread?

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    Decoteau Wilkerson
    Jama Software
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